alternative medicine HRV and doctors – USA

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Complementary therapies And Doctors


Hello! I suppose I should begin by introducing myself. My name is Kari Nokela and I am a physicist originating from Finland. I have a strong integrative health background, but also some conventional medical studies behind . With experience in both fields, I find it easy to write about and discuss closing the gap between east and west medical approaches. Special target country of this text is United States  , most creative in good and bad.

Vedapulse ecg recording system integrates complementary and alternative medicine , i.e. so-called “belief treatments”  within the same basic origin, when we study the Heart Rate Variability or HRV of the ECG . Many of the parameters kept in the lips receive a medically more acceptable explanation. I have set myself the task of explaining the benefits and science of alternative medicine HRV to every  USA medical doctor and politician. (Notice: I DO NOT sell Vedapulse. I just use)


Unfortunately, the Finnish medical association (and many other regulating bodies in USA for example) are very slow to embrace new ideas; they argue that complementary medicine is a wellness service that is based solely on placebo effect as the therapies lack any scientific evidence. However, animals have been known to recover after alternative treatment – so this in itself debunks the placebo theory. There is also a significant lack of funding for research of integrative health practises – but as history has shown us, these practices have been relied upon and evolved for thousands of years in certain civilisations. Compared to this modern medicine is very young.

About scientific logic reasonings with “natural” therapies and school medicine

All good complementary medicine practises have in common the repair of the underlying imbalances and contaminants. This is how to treat the causes of the disease and not the symptoms. When it comes to treating the underlying causes, several diseases can begin to heal at the same time. This can make clear logical cause-and-effect relationships for scientific research difficult to detect. Also, the essentials of natural therapies, the prevention of diseases, cannot easily be scientifically proven.

One particular doctor

of psychiatry has previously noted that the history of creation and thorough testing of psychiatric drugs is actually too short to establish any certainty regarding their safety or long term effects. Many pharmaceutical factories are under pressure to bring a new medicine into the market and have it for sale; this is all done too quickly. As a result, the potential long-term effects of a drug may only be revealed when the drug has been in the market and in regular use for around 10-15 years. Would this be considered as scientific logic and reasoning? Personally, I prefer not to take a stand here, but I quote the medical doctor almost word for word.

Medical doctor ‘s information and lack of information over alternative therapies, therapy givers and takers

The doctor’s and politician’s information about alternative therapists and their holistic treatments, and their clients, are many times inadequate. The majority of “natural” caregivers are responsible and would never require their clients to give up on prescription drugs or medical treatments. And most of the natural treatments are safe, but a few funny dressmakers get all the attention; (such as silver water “gurus” or functional multivitamin sellers. Eating megabig dozes of vitamins or minerals is not good for health). The medical doctor’s perception of the number of natural healers and their clients is in their lower leanings, because this large crowd does not hold the noise about itself even when it comes to exercising its rights. And a great deal of them are academic women – intelligent people.

The worldview

and human image of those who practice alternative therapies often differ quite a lot from the general population. It has been studied at the University of Jyväskylä by professor Reijo Wilenius, which uses the term “anthroposophic human image“. ( Philosopher Rudolf Steiner was the founder of anthroposophic thinking). This image emphasizes, for example: The basic idea that life is development towards both physical and mental perfection. Physical and spiritual are different aspects of one and undivided entity. This image of the general population and the medical community, on the other hand, is mostly biological-physical. An interesting question to consider is whether a diligent practicing of complementary medicine lead to an anthroposophic image or does anthroposophic image cause need to seek alternative care?

a very special “puoskarilaki” -named law possible in Finland

In Finland they are making a law to regulate the work of alternative therapists. This would increase regulation, indebtness of the state and the work load of ‘traditional’ medical doctor , who would then be in a position of frequent communication with complementary medicine professionals. I believe this kind of law could not be enforced in the United States ?. Education and training that is founded on choice and willingness would always provide better results than any kind of mandatory course “grayness”.

 About drug -herbal -interactions

Of course, it is imperative that the alternative doctors carefully study the possible co-effects and side effects of herbal and prescription drugs. Compulsory sharing of key information and findings is vital with regards to study… Even a voluntary-based education might be a beneficial in terms of educating healers on the principles of common herb-drug reactions. A well-known, highly skilled naturalist who I am familiar with does not treat elderly individuals who are already taking a lot of prescription drugs. She also does not treat pregnant women, nor Marevan users. Marevan is widely known to be unsuitable for a lot of complementary therapies treatments! And cancer diagnosis is always too risky to heal without conventional medicine.

sensational news

Ayurveda, the world’s oldest known form of organized health services, has actually been granted official status in Russia. I am unable to divulge the exact extend of the statehood.  The governmental structure in Russia is very different to the structure that I am accustomed to here in Finland.

We also need the doctor !

Our lives have already gone so far as to be non-natural, or “synthetic”, that it is not possible to suddenly jump completely off to another train to completely rely on organic treatments. Well, these kinds of leaps from time to time are made by some extreme fanatics and eventually find themselves either in the hospital emergency department or directly in the angel department. Even organic treatments need to slowly get used to the hurry and only gradually lower the synthetic drug load when it is safe to do so. At least in Ayurveda.

new discovery

Background: ” complementary and alternative medicine ” of east – ayurveda and traditional chinese medicine

Professor Oleg Sorokin and his team of Russian space physicists made contact with traditional Chinese medicine  (mostly acupuncture specialists) masters and the masters of Indian ayurveda in order to establish any similarities between their practices. At t present, their is a common misconception that the two of these fields are far removed from one another and hold no common, shared practices. Although Sorokin was working alongside his team of physicists, he is not a physicist himself.

The work and the communication between the two ancient practices resulted in the finding of a common theory. Oleg Sorokin’s physicists drew up a software that uses this common theory base. The same science base can be extended to most of the alternative therapies that we know. According to this theory functioning of heart is the key to understanding our health.  It tells us pretty much everything we may need to know.

medical electronics | ecg frequency calculation – the Heart Rate Variability – HRV 

Vedapulse is a result of long work, which, in its base unit, measures the heart ECG signal from the wrist for 5 minutes. Then it analyzes and prints academic ” doctor information” alongside with alternative medicine HRV information. The Ayurvedic dosha theory has been kept on the lips, but this measurement system calculates the ECG frequency spectrum and divides it into three parts. These parts correspond to doshas Vata, Pitta and Kapha. This is how ayurveda becomes commonplace.  To put it quite precisely, the calculation of that frequency spectrum contains more than just the Fourier Transformation: All the computational algorithms used relate to the recording of the heart rate interval variation in both the frequency and time domains. (i.e., covered by the general concept of Heart Rate Variability (HRV)).

Most scientists agree, that basic central nervous system conditions show up in HRV , like division to sympathetic and para-sympathetic nerves. And surely also Ayurveda people know, that doshas are strongly related to central nervous system.

Yes, HRV is very sensitive

to age changes, electrical and mechanical disturbances during measurement etc.. , as stated in the article of Gerhard Litscher . But for the purposes of detecting alternative medicine variables, like Ayurvedic doshas, HRV  is shown to be accurate enough. Measurement time of 5 minutes and sophisticated methods to cut away the disturbances from ECG, have show to be good enough.

Analysis of the ECG applied to complementary medicine HRV

If the heart rhythm does not change at all, there is only one frequency in the frequency spectrum, at about one hertz (when the heart rate is 60 beats per minute). In this case, the person under examination lacks all other frequencies. If, on the other hand, the heart rhythm rarely varies, that is, slowly, the person has a lot of very low frequencies. In this case, the low frequencies in his spectrum are weighted. If the heart rhythm fluctuates rapidly, the person also has higher frequencies.

Normally, at least much more than one frequency is found in the spectrum. Equality of all kinds of frequencies is, as ayurvedic, a symbol of a healthy person. Of course, morbid phenomena, such as arrhythmias and atrial fibrillation, are in no way related to the above-mentioned review.  Arrhytmias must be cut away from ecg measurement.


Vedapulse calculates the energy field of the meridians of the Chinese medicine, and even the energy “aura” of human beings. This allows the energy healer to orient his treatment optimally. Program extensions are among others. For yogis and dietary supplements and herbal medicines advisers and for aroma therapy.  mind and body practices

east and west come together

In one scientific study the dosha profiles (vata,pitta,kapha -balance) were measured with both Vedapulse and the traditional finger method. In 85% of cases the measurement gave same output. Some scientists say there is a difference between traditional measurement and electronic measurement.  When doing it traditionally you measure mechanical force, but doing it with electronics you measure electrical voltage. Well, they both reflect functioning of the heart.

 DR Sorokin founder of Vedapulse ECG measurement
Oleg Sorokin, the “father” of Vedapulse, creator of ECG -based analyzer

Outbound links

A fresh and very professional study about Vedapulse and HRV

Andrew Duncan’s article

Veda pulse for health pro’s: Heart Rate Variability measurement in practise

There is a wonderful site explaining about chronic pain control naturally without drugs by Vicki Ellis, MS. USA

New kind of educationA collection of MA reseach studies

Description: A free, no-frills education site with a Virtual Library of Useful URLs arranged by Dewey Decimal Classification
To my Linkeln pages
alternative and complementary medicine
also in Wikipedia.

Internal links

Me Kari Nokela and my character and hobbys
A satire about accuracy of medicine

The “message” – Reducing

  • The result of cooperation between Russian space physicists, Oleg Sorokin, Indian Ayurvedic masters and Masters of Chinese Traditional medicine.
  • The basic idea: by measuring the electrical activity of the heart, almost all health information can be obtained from human.
  • Many of the alternative therapies variables that are considered to be huh are reduced to everyday ECG Heart Rate Variability .
  • Finns trust more with the device than humans. Consultant’s popularity grows markedly. So in United states too.
  • Vedapulse is a computer program supplemented with electrodes and a coupling unit.
  • The most appropriate program extensions meet the needs of a very multi-choice treatment. There are extensions to acupuncture, yoga, aromatherapy, herbal therapy, nutritional counseling, energy therapy, naturopath, personal trainer etc. etc.

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